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kelly called the fbi and asked them to investigate. one of the fbi agents become obsessed with jill kelly and sent her a shirtless picture of himself. he was later removed from the case because of his role in it. the president thinks highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. the president has hut on hold general allen's nominition pending the investigation of general allen's conduct. >> folks close to general allen have been telling nbc that allen did not have an affair with jill kelly. but nothing untoward or in appropriate wend on between allen and jill kelly. is in any quarterly from the camp about this testifying as a pry variety citizen? any controversy about that? we don't know yet. would he be put under oath if he testified up on capital hill and that would behind closed doors if he does. >> thank you very, very much. i want to know if general petraeus was compromised during the investigate and shortly after he returned from benghazi. here now is former deputy secretar
kelly called the fbi and asked them to investigate. one of the fbi agents become obsessed with jill kelly and sent her a shirtless picture of himself. he was later removed from the case because of his role in it. the president thinks highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. the president has hut on hold general allen's nominition pending the investigation of general allen's conduct. >> folks close to general allen have been...
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you're a former fbi guy. do you think there is one more shocking big development to come out? >> well, you know, i don't have my crystal ball in front of me, i can tell you the fact that the investigation is continuing and we are learning more information today than we had yesterday. my thought is in will continue to develop, i think there needs to be a much more thorough inquiry as regards any of those classified documents or, you know, as eamon said, transferred over. not saying there is going to be anymore big shockers but more details to be wrapped up in this investigation before they are fully and thoroughly understand who is related to whom and if any, in fact, classified documents were released. >> yeah, you got to -- to quote stephen wright, the come media, have to be on the ouija board of directors to figure this out. >>> our bizzaro tuesday continues, a lot more do here. the guy some tapped to run microsoft is out of microsoft. >>> then he, we speak with the ceo of nokia, remember them? cot struggling mobile phonemaker have a secret weapon up its sleeve? [ abdul-rash
you're a former fbi guy. do you think there is one more shocking big development to come out? >> well, you know, i don't have my crystal ball in front of me, i can tell you the fact that the investigation is continuing and we are learning more information today than we had yesterday. my thought is in will continue to develop, i think there needs to be a much more thorough inquiry as regards any of those classified documents or, you know, as eamon said, transferred over. not saying there...
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apparently that wasn't good enough to hide all these e-mails from the fbi, which is now investigating all of this and trying to figure out whether any national security secrets were broached in any of this scandal. guys, back to you. >> i think is that the biggest question. very disturbing story. eamon, thank you very much. >>> now a story rock the corporate world, he was the map who helped keep your computer safe from virus. software pioneer john mcafee wanted in a murder case. robert frank has a bizarre story. robert? >> it is a bizarre story. as reported yesterday, john mcafee is wanted for questioning in the murder of another american in the country of belize. now, mcafee is in hiding and refuses to turn himself in. a business associate of mcafee told me this morning that john is being unfairly targeted by the new government in belize. he say he is the police have been "trying to squeeze john for money" and this murder investigation may be yet another attempt. now, police raided mcafee's compound this spring. they seized guns and drug samples. mcafee was quickly released but his t
apparently that wasn't good enough to hide all these e-mails from the fbi, which is now investigating all of this and trying to figure out whether any national security secrets were broached in any of this scandal. guys, back to you. >> i think is that the biggest question. very disturbing story. eamon, thank you very much. >>> now a story rock the corporate world, he was the map who helped keep your computer safe from virus. software pioneer john mcafee wanted in a murder case....
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secondly the moment that the fbi and the fbi director found out or realized general petraeus was within the scope of the investigation, should have gone to the attorney general which apparently they did. but at the earlier they should are v done that and president should have been advised. otherwise to me the president was poorly served unless there is a mindset in the administration that, you know, they just make believe reality isn't there until after the election. we really believe this was a four-month investigation involving the recollector of the sigh eye and did not come to fruition until election night. >> that's the hard part. >> that was absolutely impossible to believe. >> i agree. it is just not a credible position. but chairman, before i lose you, look, petraeus, great american. great man. but he made a great mistake, peter. he made a great mistake. and i think guys like that have to have honor and have to have personal morality. they have to set an example. i mean, that's also part of this story, is it not. >> it is. and i -- again, i urged general petraeus to run for pres
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be the fbi agent. >> i've got to wax my chest first, jane. let me -- let's do that the next show. >> plus we're still on the air, jane. >> tmi. >> good to see you. see you tomorrow. >>> coming up next on "fast" a trader is taking a picture perfect trade of day. stay with us. we're going to lift the curtain and reveal what it is. stay tuned. looking for a better place to put your cash? here's one you may not have thought of -- fidelity. now you don't have to go to a bank to get the things you want from a bank, like no-fee atms, all over the world. free checkwriting and mobile deposits. now depositing a check is as easy as taking a picture. free online bill payments. a highly acclaimed credit card with 2% cash back into your fidelity account. open a fidelity cash management account today and discover another reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. >>> welcome back to "fast money." an update in the case of john mcafee, the founder of mcafee security systems. he is wanted for questioning in relation to a murder of an ex-pat in belize. thi
be the fbi agent. >> i've got to wax my chest first, jane. let me -- let's do that the next show. >> plus we're still on the air, jane. >> tmi. >> good to see you. see you tomorrow. >>> coming up next on "fast" a trader is taking a picture perfect trade of day. stay with us. we're going to lift the curtain and reveal what it is. stay tuned. looking for a better place to put your cash? here's one you may not have thought of -- fidelity. now you don't...
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meanwhile, there's an unnamed fbi agent involved in all of this. apparently that kelley had approached and asked for his help in dealing with these anonymous e-mails. this agent also apparently became obsessed with jill kelley and was orderred off the investigation. at one point, he sent shirtless pictures of himself to jill kelley. this thing is sprawling and confu confusing. a lot of possible ini did cessions. defense officials today are denying there was any affair here between general john allen and jill kelley and saying some of the descriptions of these e-mails are mischaracterized. there's still a lot we don't know. >> it this is getting bigger. this is a much bigger story. more will be revealed. thank you very much, eamon. much of the evidence the fbi is uncovering is coming from a shared gmail account where the parties log in separately and read drafted e-mails that were never sent. those drafts were deleted, but they were still retrieved by the government. that's very interesting. they weren't even sent. so whether it's for business or pe
meanwhile, there's an unnamed fbi agent involved in all of this. apparently that kelley had approached and asked for his help in dealing with these anonymous e-mails. this agent also apparently became obsessed with jill kelley and was orderred off the investigation. at one point, he sent shirtless pictures of himself to jill kelley. this thing is sprawling and confu confusing. a lot of possible ini did cessions. defense officials today are denying there was any affair here between general john...
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but i want to say that i have a lot of confidence generally in the fbi. they've got a difficult job. and so i'm going to wait and see to see if there's any other -- [ inaudible question ] >> i mean, chuck, what i'll say is, it is also possible that had we been told, then you'd be sitting here asking a question about why were you interfering in a criminal investigation. so i think it's best right now for us to just see how this whole process unfolded. with respect to the tax rates, i just want to emphasize, i am open to new ideas if the republican counterparts or some democrats have a great idea for us to raise revenue, maintain progressivity, make sure the middle class isn't getting hit, reduces our deficit, encourages growth, i'm not just going to slam the door in their face. i want to hear ideas from everybody. well, look. i believe this is solvable. i think that fair minded people can come to an agreement that does not cause the economy to go back into recession, that protects middle class families, that focuses on jobs and growth, and reduces our defi
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i don't think the right answer is that you have to go to the fbi in every single case. but what ceos should recognize is there are some people in the government who can help out. the fbi has a lot of capacity and they could help mitigate the overall risk to some of these cyber intrusions. department of homeland security with the department of defense can be helpful. usually in one of the attacks the first attack you discover is not really what you should be worried about. meanwhile all of your intellectual property flows out the door for two years or secret information about transactions you may be working on is going to another country or another firm. if you see one incident it's worth it as a leader to take it sear yuzly and probably go to the fbi. >> should you assume everything in your e-mail is being read by somebody else? >> you should not assume everything is being read by the government. we of course take the fourth amendment seriously and from an operational perspective there's no reason why the fbi, the national security agency wants to read everyone's e-mail
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. >> the fbi is looking into the hp account iing impropriety. deal culminated under former manager. >> former portfolio manager investors acharged today in the most lucrative insider case today. 38-year-old matthew martomo accused in illegal profits from a doctor involved in an alzheimer's drug trial. the unit owner was aware of the trades. spokesman tells cnbc that cohen and the firm are cooperating with the probe. he is the third employee that has resulted in more than 60 convictions so far. >> we appreciate the update. now let's go to the war in the middle east. still no cease fire deal. israel. you will never guess which target they took out today. that whole story continues and is up next. and she became the full time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheer
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in "the new york times" and elsewhere, but the fbi is getting involved. is that something to do with the timing also because that sort of thing will leak out over throughout official washington? >> benghazi is not about libya. benghazi is about the policy of the obama administration to involve the united states without clarity to the american people. not only in libya, but throughout the whole of the arab world now in turmoil, benghazi is about the nse directing an operation that is perhaps shadowy, perhaps has a presidential finding and perhaps doesn't and takes arms and men and puts them into syria and this is a very large story and it's right in front of us for the second term. >> boy, this thing will unravel like crazy. thank you ever so much. we appreciate it. >> coming up on youed kudlow, the politics of reaching common sense and common ground on the fiscal cliff. did the gop go wobbly? i say stick to your economic principles. that's next on kudlow. [ female announcer ] e-trade technology can help make you a better investor. our e-trade 360 investin
in "the new york times" and elsewhere, but the fbi is getting involved. is that something to do with the timing also because that sort of thing will leak out over throughout official washington? >> benghazi is not about libya. benghazi is about the policy of the obama administration to involve the united states without clarity to the american people. not only in libya, but throughout the whole of the arab world now in turmoil, benghazi is about the nse directing an operation...
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consulate in libya, lawmakers are finally briefed by intelligence, state and fbi officials. >>> call it president obama's bad medicine. my 2025 research shows the u.s. will have a full-blown doctor shortage because of obama care. >>> first up, with 46 days until the country's economy plummets off the tax and fiscal cliff, new signs tonight that democrats are digging in when it comes to raising taxes on the rich. take a listen to a letter president obama read in his first second-term press conference yesterday. >> it came from a man in tennessee who began by writing that he didn't vote for me. which is okay. but what he said was, even though he didn't give me his vote, he's giving me his support to move this country forward. and he said the same to his republican representatives in washington. he said that he'll back each of us, regardless of party, as long as we work together to make life better for all of us. and he made it clear that if we don't make enough progress, he'll be back in touch. >> so here now from nashville is steve wise. he's the author of that letter and he's the pre
consulate in libya, lawmakers are finally briefed by intelligence, state and fbi officials. >>> call it president obama's bad medicine. my 2025 research shows the u.s. will have a full-blown doctor shortage because of obama care. >>> first up, with 46 days until the country's economy plummets off the tax and fiscal cliff, new signs tonight that democrats are digging in when it comes to raising taxes on the rich. take a listen to a letter president obama read in his first...
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the fbi -- >> you called him general petraeus? >> no, that was your hair. >> what about the fbi agent who is sending shirtless pictures of himself prior to the investigation? it's like a -- >> you think he should go the full monty? >> and now colonel allen is involved in this somehow. i mean, i'm telling you, this is like a soap ap practiopera. >> it is. but i have no idea what to quote. viagra? pfizer? i have no idea how we make this a business story. but let's get to congress. as we mentioned, when you say lame, it just seems like you could always use that with congress. but in this case it's a lame duck returning to session. legislators facing a seven week deadline to reach agreement on scheduled tax hikes and budget cuts that threaten to send the u.s. almost off a fiscal cliff. a sum met set for friday. i like the "new york times." democrats like a romney idea. >> did you see paul ryan's comment? >> no. but i got my button back on because i'm -- i'm going to tell that you rise above is kind of like a rorschach thing. because f
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officers in new york and connecticut and this case centers upon a gentleman who was arrested by the fbi at his florida home this morning. he allegedly got inside information about an alzheimer's drug on trial in 2006 and 2007 being conducted jointly and he passed on that information to said hedge fund resulting in the ill gotten gains and in the process committed securities fraud among other accusations. we'll bring you more details as we have in this news just out this morning and there's a press conference later today at about 12:30. we'll bring you details. >> all right. already a busy month. thank you for that. we'll see you later on today. >>> big box retailer best buy reporting weaker than expected numbers just days before the unexpected start to the holiday season. for how much longer will it cut into profits? you won't want to miss what meg whitman has to say about that quarter and the autonomy write off at 10:40 eastern time. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 this morning, i'm going to trade in hong kong. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 then tonight
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and the fraud office in the uk and some say the fbi involved in the investigation. >> fascinating story, though that's still developing. let's get to carl who's on the floor. carl? >> thank you very much, melissa. fresh from the opening bell we want to we will comb amy, executive producer of the annual macy's thanksgiving day parade, celebrating its 86th year televised tomorrow on nbc from 9 a.m. eastern until noon. also a man who needs no introduction. i've been told it's santa, not mr. claus, just santa. >> we're all on a first name basis. >> we're going down sixth avenue, wide, straight street. parades love to go straight, not make a lot of turns. the sidewalks are wider so more people can see it. more people can see santa. >> 3 million people watching in town, 50 million on television. new floats, elf on the shelf, hello kitty, papa smurf. >> brand new balloons. and the artist cause is bringing to bring his alter ego to life. >> obviously, new york's been through a lot the past few weeks. did sandy alter preps? >> our parade studio is in new jersey in a town that was deeply affected
and the fraud office in the uk and some say the fbi involved in the investigation. >> fascinating story, though that's still developing. let's get to carl who's on the floor. carl? >> thank you very much, melissa. fresh from the opening bell we want to we will comb amy, executive producer of the annual macy's thanksgiving day parade, celebrating its 86th year televised tomorrow on nbc from 9 a.m. eastern until noon. also a man who needs no introduction. i've been told it's santa,...
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she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know about the fourth amendment, right? the right protection. there's some measure of protection, and there's also an electronic protection privacy act. the problem, ashleigh, is it was enacted in 1986. >> we didn't even carry cell phones with us at that time, so it's outdated. why is that relevant? it's relevant because of this. if are you transmitting emails, there's a level of protection. if those emails that are stored on a server and they're there for six months, they're deemed abandoned, and as a result of that, the government without a warrant can now say, look, this person is a subj
she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know...
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jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon, thank you so much for clearing up what we can. i have the sense there will be a lot more to clear up in coming hours and days. >> let's keep digging. as for how the white house is responding, let's bring in brianna keeler. brianna, the president and congress have been scheduled this week to meet about the fiscal cliff. might these new details on the fbi investigation be a bit of a distraction for them? >> well, i would say certainly all of the discussion over this scandal takes up a lot of the oxygen in the news cycle, for sure. the fiscal cliff is going to continue to be a prio
jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence...
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willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he believes information about comings and goings that paula broadwell sent sparked the investigation and he said there were grounds to do that. >> brian, thanks very much. >>> if a top general has an affair, is it a crime under military law? the answer might be yes. is it time for a refresh you er course from the top down? more in the "the situation room." ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no
willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he...
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that's the fbi protocol, to keep them confidential. and i think what you're seeing right now over the weekend actually proves the point of what happens when something that has this kind of tabloid nature in addition to the fact that he's a high ranking officer of the intelligence community, if not one of the very highest, makes a reason to maintain the integrity of the investigation. >> one of the things that i was not aware of is that the fbi can access all classified cia e-mail. it's astounding. so given at, that's a lot of e-mail to go through. so perhaps that can added to the length of time that this took. and to my knowledge, it's not that they are looking for an affair. that's not illegal in the cia. they are not looking for an affair. they are looking for any product of an affair that could be constituted as illegal. with that in mind, doesn't protocol go out the window the moment an e-mail is found that constitutes the potential of classified information being in the hands of the wrong person of the mistress? >> i don't think p
that's the fbi protocol, to keep them confidential. and i think what you're seeing right now over the weekend actually proves the point of what happens when something that has this kind of tabloid nature in addition to the fact that he's a high ranking officer of the intelligence community, if not one of the very highest, makes a reason to maintain the integrity of the investigation. >> one of the things that i was not aware of is that the fbi can access all classified cia e-mail. it's...
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the fbi has its own protocols in terms of how they proceed. and, you know, i'm iffing to let director mueller and others examine those protocols and make some statements to the public general. i do topt emphasize that general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as head of the cia. business hen own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with his family and with his wife, and it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that david petraeus has done, and my hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. again, i think you're going to have to talk to the f
the fbi has its own protocols in terms of how they proceed. and, you know, i'm iffing to let director mueller and others examine those protocols and make some statements to the public general. i do topt emphasize that general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as head of the cia. business hen own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal...
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me at fbi headquarters. fbi has senior officials embedded throughout cia headquarters and working together in the field. the cia is well aware that if an allegation is made against minimum, whether it's here in the cia or they're somewhere else in the government, that's the fbi's responsibility, and they have the jurisdiction to look at the matter, on visit the matter. this is not based on, you know -- again, the fbi begins its investigation. they have no clue that it's going to lead to someone at the cia, so this is -- the thing about animosity with the cia is in this matter particularly ridiculous. >> david petraeus visit security clearance on cnm.com for more information. >>> still thousands of folks without power. across ten states, recovering from superstorm sandy taking longer, much longer accident than people had hoped. >> god is with us, and we know we're going to have help soon. i trust in our government, you know, we're going to have help soon, and everything is going to be all right. ♪ ♪ we're
me at fbi headquarters. fbi has senior officials embedded throughout cia headquarters and working together in the field. the cia is well aware that if an allegation is made against minimum, whether it's here in the cia or they're somewhere else in the government, that's the fbi's responsibility, and they have the jurisdiction to look at the matter, on visit the matter. this is not based on, you know -- again, the fbi begins its investigation. they have no clue that it's going to lead to someone...
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i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing related to kelly, this becomes the fbi's cyber division is concerned that petraeus's private e-mail is hacked in to. that's why they continue this and the crime they're looking at. this is a red herring about harassment of jill kelly, a private citizen and a social liaison. ludicrous. that's not a predicate. >> do you think they overstepped that? >> go ahead, tom. >> determination would be made that, you know, what's the content of these messages? they would take that to the u.s. attorney's office and determine whether or not this might b
i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing...
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and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a critical moment for our military. >> congressman elijah cummings joining us. ranking member of the house oversight committee. nice to see you, sir. thank you for your time this morning. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, a starting point, he resigned after a sex scandal of his own. former new jersey governor jim mcgreevey is going to join us to talk about sort of the fallout and how people deal with the fallout. that's straight ahead. stay with us. one. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to remember. with the bankamericard cash rewards
and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a...
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fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are lawmakers going to find out? >> well, they're going to have some meetings tomorrow on the hill that are going to come before hearings open thursday. and michael morel, acting direct tore of the cia and sean joyce will be involved in these meetings. they'll be asked a lot of questions about what they knew about the petraeus investigation, when they knew it, and why they didn't come forward. a couple things at play here, erin. one is, keep in mind, the fbi itself has said very little about this case so far. public
fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are...
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he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business. >> you're talking about the agent that was contacted initially and wasn't part of the fbi investigation, but had some knowledge because he was the one that passed it on to his superiors, he then apparently went to someone who went to eric cantor, and that sort of started the ball rolling. that's not how this came out. is he really a major player in all of this? >> i think he should be and i think he will be. because that is dishonorable conduct. the fbi and the cia spent the second half of the 20th century at war with one another and their feuding was
he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business....
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>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that there are protocols they follow that govern how they inform the various branchs of government of the investigations. >> do you think people think it's utterly bizarre, the day after the election and anger on capitol hill? the time, at least the appearance? >> look, all i can tell you is, when the white house was informed and i would let the relevant members of congress explain to you how and when they were informed. my understanding is there are protocols the fbi follows with regards to these notifications and i would refer yo
>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that...
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why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then would this all have happened. that's sort of the cleopatra's nose theory. if she had an ugly nose, would history have been different. that's an interesting question to discuss but i don't think it's a fundamental one. >> this revelation that apparently the investigation was concluded four days before the election clearly somebody has decided, whoever that may be and i'm sure we'll find out in the forms of time, that the information should not be passed to the white house, although i share your concern about the white house's blanket denial they
why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then...
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. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot of ground to cover here. we have this video that has surfaced of paula broadwell, last month, speaking at the university of denver and she's speaking here as david petraeus' biographer about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. let's take a listen. >> i don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the cia an annex had taken a couple prisoner and they think the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get the prisoners back. that's still being vetted. >> where did she hear that? did it come from david petraeus and do we k
. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot...
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the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more than one internet address. news reports say paula broadwell, now known as the person sending harassing e-mails to kelley believed to send them from various places. depending on where the computer was plugged in, the sender would have different ip addresses. an expert on internet monitoring explains what the fbi likely did next. >> so what they did is they determined that she logged into this e-mail account from hotels around the country. and so they contacted the hotels and got the guest lists, the names of people who were staying at the hotels on those
the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more...
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first of all -- excuse me -- how something about emails went to the level of the fbi, how the fbi could have been investigating it this long, and yet, you know, general petraeus was involved, director petraeus was involved. for me if it was the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest state so it seems to be going on for severalonths and, yet, now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up, and you have this type of investigation. the fbi investigating emails, the emails leading to the cia director and taking four months to find out that the cia director was involved. i have real questions about this. i think a timeline has to be looked at and analyzed to see what happened. now, as far as leaving the hole, general petraeus was an outstanding general, outstanding, dedicated public official. he is going to be missed. as i'm sure senator mendez would agree, no one is irreplaceable in government, but he will have at least a short-term im
first of all -- excuse me -- how something about emails went to the level of the fbi, how the fbi could have been investigating it this long, and yet, you know, general petraeus was involved, director petraeus was involved. for me if it was the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest state so it seems to be going on for severalonths and, yet, now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that...
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the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and reporting. we've been unable to corroborate this in the time scale we've had tonight but you do have very good fbi sources. i want to turn to bob baer. he's the cnn contributor. does this make sense to you that this could be the sequence of events? >> oh, absolutely, but i tend to attribute more significance to the fbi of getting into petraeus' e-mails. the fbi, as a matter of course, doesn't look at affairs, doesn't read military officers' e-mails or cia officers. they have to be alerted to some sort of crime or counterintelligence problem. i can only speculate what t
the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and...
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and jill kelley goes to the fbi and that is how this all unravels. now, speaking of general allen, he, of course, is the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan. he was nominated as the supreme allied commander in europe. and that nomination is on hold. but secretary panetta said that they have confidence in him. let's listen to panetta. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading those forces. he has my continued conference to lead those forces and continue to fight. but his nomination has been put on old because it's a prude measure until we determine what the facts are. and we will. >> right, john, obviously it's going to take a while because this is a very tangled situation. but they certainly are looking at exactly what is described as flirtatious e-mails that still remain to be seen what the nature of this was. >> jill, you talk about jill kelley at the center of this whole controversy and scandal. we have new details about her relationship
and jill kelley goes to the fbi and that is how this all unravels. now, speaking of general allen, he, of course, is the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan. he was nominated as the supreme allied commander in europe. and that nomination is on hold. but secretary panetta said that they have confidence in him. let's listen to panetta. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading...
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what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting criminal investigations to the white house and others actually stem way back to the watergate scandal. an investigation back then uncovered abuses and mistakes and the justice department has since made changes. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! reminds me of our network before cdw virtualized it. how
what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting...
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but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it seems this has been going on for several months and yet now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner. the house and senate intelligence committees weren't informed until friday. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. i mean, this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> reporter: not everyone on the hill was totally in the dark. house majority leader eric cantor said an fbi employee told him about petraeus' affair and a possible security breach in october. after the investigation had begun. a u.s. official says that the general's communications were never compromised and he was never the target of the investigation. another issue, petraeus stepped do
but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it seems this has been going on for several months and yet now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner. the house and senate intelligence committees weren't...
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i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so maybe the president will put some of those things to rest tomorrow. but the fbi really hasn't come out and said much at all so a lot of the information that's been coming out about this case has been through leaks and anonymous sources. >> i think the reason the fbi is not saying anything is because this is going to be deeply embarrassing when we get to the bottom of it. thank you both very much. >>> i want to turn to a member of general petraeus' inner circle, his former spokesman, colonel steve boylan. colonel, thank you for joining me. when did you last speak to david petraeus? >> i spoke with
i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eri
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find...
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you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of that agent who had this picture taken in between two dummies and make it look like he was a target at the range, and he sent it to a number of people including the media. >> the fbi has really been amazing over these past few decades. since the sordid days of j. edgar hoover in rebuilding its reputation. an incident like this could have a negative impact. >> it could but it won't. the agents should not have got outside of the fbi. that's why these protocols exist. that's why the white house wasn't notified, because of what happened decad
you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of...
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earlier i asked why would the fbi investigate cia e-mails. >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threat another person, so that's where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet and since they're coming in to someone working at cia headquarters and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern here then, that an outsider could have access quite simply to sensitive information and intelligence. >> well, that's the concern, when it starts, but when you look into that, in the cia or fbi headquarters or any of the intel agencies, often you have dual computer systems to that you can receive outside e-mails because someone might send a complaint over the public internet service providers, and then of course you have the classified e-mail systems internally, and they're completely separate, but the fact that someone's receiving a threat at that level, they have to investigate and look at the nature of the t
earlier i asked why would the fbi investigate cia e-mails. >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threat another person, so that's where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet and since they're coming in to someone working at cia headquarters and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern...
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that individual went to the fbi in the pursuit of that review of that threat. they came upon access to e-mails of mr. petraeus. and with this individual. and their concern maybe that his personal e-mails had been hacked and therefore the possibility of a security threat. and i think that if that is the sequence of events that's perfectly understandable. obviously, you know, there was a discussion between jim clapper and petraeus and there was a decision by general petraeus that it was in his best interests of himself, the agency, and his family to resign. so unless something else comes out i think it's pretty clear. i don't see a conspiracy behind every curtain as some of my colleagues do. >> okay. senator, let me turn to the so-called fiscal cliff, which now we're looking at through the prism of what just happened in the elections. as far as you're concerned, is there a mandate that came out of this election that taxes should be raised on the wealthy? that seems to be what democrats are arguing. >> i think there are two mandates. number one is the electorate w
that individual went to the fbi in the pursuit of that review of that threat. they came upon access to e-mails of mr. petraeus. and with this individual. and their concern maybe that his personal e-mails had been hacked and therefore the possibility of a security threat. and i think that if that is the sequence of events that's perfectly understandable. obviously, you know, there was a discussion between jim clapper and petraeus and there was a decision by general petraeus that it was in his...
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why are they issues for national debate and why are they issues for the fbi? >> the fbi has to get into the details of those various documents and e-mail that is john ellen had with jill kelley and others only because it's been raised. they have the obligation to investigate it. it's not a story i would prefer to talk about, nor you. we're still a nation at war. we have 68,000 troops on the ground and we're prosecuting an ene enemy. we have to do that right. john allen has a job to take care of an absolutely precious mission in afghanistan to ensure that that transition goes well. i'm with you, will, i would prefer to be talking about something else of far more significant matter. dave petraeus is gone from the cia. it's important we understand there wasn't a breach of national security. paula broadwell had very close access to dave petraeus. i'm not trying to be flippant here, but what was whispered, what was said, what did she have acti access to? that has to be proven there was not risk. i don't have any more data than you do. this investigation has to run
why are they issues for national debate and why are they issues for the fbi? >> the fbi has to get into the details of those various documents and e-mail that is john ellen had with jill kelley and others only because it's been raised. they have the obligation to investigate it. it's not a story i would prefer to talk about, nor you. we're still a nation at war. we have 68,000 troops on the ground and we're prosecuting an ene enemy. we have to do that right. john allen has a job to take...
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see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a predicate and is this a priority. that's not clear until you trace this for awhile and get to petraeus, and the question i'm raising is why, what was the predicate, why did they pursue it. >> once it gets to petraeus, tom, and i want your expertise here, what would happen? because i would imagine as soon as they realized david petraeus is involved, there must be a whole series of hoops they have to jump through or markers they have to hit. >> once they identified paula broadwell as the sender of the messages to kelley, then they subpoena the rest of her records and they see an exchange of anony
see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a...